UKTeX Digest Friday, 8 Oct 1993 Volume 93 : Issue 32 ``The UKTeX Digest is brought to you as a free, unfunded and voluntary service of the UK TeX Users Group and the UK TeX Archive.'' Today's Topics: {Questions & Answers}: Re:mathops Re: log like functions: strange TeX behaviour BibTeX styles Re: BibTeX styles Cross indexing between books EmTeX query (received by FAX) {Archive News}: various TeXes Binaries for DEC Alpha machine running OpenVMS {Announcements}: Front Ends to TeX - a reminder Administrivia: Moderators: Peter Abbott (Aston University) and David Osborne (University of Nottingham) Contributions: UKTeX@uk.ac.tex Administration, subscription and unsubscription requests: UKTeX-request@uk.ac.tex ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1993 22:58:26 -0000 From: r.bailey@uk.ac.goldsmiths Subject: Re:mathops mathop was designed so that if it contains a single character then that character is vertically centered. if you don't like that simply put it in a box, e.g. \mathop{\mbox{E}} for expectation. see page 144 of the english translation of le petit livre... yes, amslatex does have \operatorname and \operatornamewithlimits, but they are not ideal: (a) they force a font on you (b) their behaviour with respect to limits is not what you might expect if you are familiar with tex's \limits, \nolimits and \displaylimits (c) it doesn't have a nifty form for \mathbin or \mathrel, so you are going to have to do it yourself anyway. - -- R. A. Bailey Snail: Department of Mathematical Studies Tel: (+44) 81 692 7171 Goldsmiths' College New Cross Email: r.bailey@uk.ac.gold London SE14 6NW ------------------------------ Date: 05 Oct 1993 11:26:26 -0000 From: Mike Piff Subject: Re: log like functions: strange TeX behaviour %>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 12:05:25 +0100 %>From: Richard Kaye %>Subject: log like functions: strange TeX behaviour %> %> %>I got some strange behaviour from TeX using \mathop. Perhaps this %>might be a warning that TeX doesn't always do the `obvious' thing. %>I'd be glad if a TeX guru could tell me why it does what it does. %> %>Copying macros in plain tex (also used in LaTeX, etc) I have been %>defining loglike functions as follows: %> %>\def\fun{\mathop{\rm fun}\nolimits} %> %>This works fine. \fun gives the right amount of spacing, like %>\sin, \log, etc. Then one day I type %> %>\def\newfun{\mathop{\rm H}\nolimits} %> %>and I have problems. The H comes out about 2mm too low. This doesn't %>happen with all letters, but I don't know which letters in particular %>cause this problem. Please can someone tell me why, and explain which %>letters I can expect this problem. I would also like to know why TeX %>was designed this way. (TeX doesn't have bugs so it's a feature!) %>I guessed the fix, since I had had strange problems with double superscript %>errors once when no amount of grouping would fix the problem*. The fix is %> %>\def\morefun{\mathop{\rm H{}}\nolimits} %> %>Question: I know that AMS-LaTeX etc have macros for new loglike functions. %>Do they get my H example right or not? I don't have a copy on hand else I'd %>try it myself. %> %>Richard Kaye %> %>* ${{\bar a}^b}^c$ produces an error. TeX ignores the { }s because of %>the accent! The fix is ${{\bar a{}}^b}^c$. %> The behaviour of math Op atoms consisting of a single ``symbol'' is explained in rule 13, Appendix G of The TeXbook. Single symbol Ops are centred but the rest are not. Seems as though this should have been an optional feature available with any sort of Op atom. I obtained the same when using "\rm d" as the text of a \mathop definition. (Yes I know I could have just typed {\rm d} everywhere, but the point is that the form was \mathop{} and the content was "\rm d", and the spacing should be the same for my d as for sin or cos. My fix was to include \kern\z@. There are (at least) 8 places where a sub/superscript/accent might be placed relative to the nucleus. Perhaps TeX should reflect this? Mike Piff ------------------------------ Date: 05 Oct 1993 14:07:08 -0000 From: Mike Piff Subject: BibTeX styles Forwarded message: X-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 93 11:50:07 BST X-From: ap1ir@acms1.shef.ac.uk (IRhodes) I need a bibtex style file which provides citations in the form : (Smith 1987) and references in the form TASAN, S and STURM, N., 1986 An algorithm for ..etc \it{Int Journal of Remote S ensing}, 7, 643-655 If you dont know of a suitable .bst file, who does ? Thanks Ian Rhodes (I.Rhodes@sheffield) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1993 19:33:35 +0000 From: spqr@uk.ac.tex.ftp Subject: Re: BibTeX styles > I need a bibtex style file which provides citations in the form : > > (Smith 1987) > > and references in the form > > TASAN, S and STURM, N., 1986 An algorithm for ..etc \it{Int Journal > of Remote Sensing}, 7, 643-655 there are many many bibtex styles on CTAN in bibliography/bibtex/styles/contrib. look at some of the APA-like ones, or Harvard. > TASAN, S and STURM, N., 1986 An algorithm for ..etc \it{Int Journal just for the record, this is WRONG LaTeX sebastian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1993 16:30:25 -0400 From: Alastair Rough Subject: Cross indexing between books What macros are available to compile an index between books? The \makeindex commands can make an index for a single book, with a little coaxing, but say you make a statements on a topic in two different books and wish both statements to be included in a common index do you know of anything written to perform this function? Thanks Alastair Rough ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1993 08:27:44 -0000 From: Peter Abbott Subject: EmTeX query (received by FAX) To: P.Abbott@aston.ac.uk X-From: M.Campbell@aston.ac.uk Dear Mr Abbott Following our phone conversation this morning I have a description of my problem with using EmTeX, The System I am using is a version EmTeX on a PC, the release version in the documentation is: 25 Sept 1990, with modifications of 6 Oct 1991 additions 8 April 92. The computer I am using is a Dell System 310. I am currently a RICOH printer, which is configured to emulate an HP LaserJet 2. I have followed the installation instructions in the guide that was provided with the disks. I unpacked and installed the files required for LATEX by following the instructions in section 5 (Installation of the guide and have set the environment viariables as described in section 8 (Environment variables and config.sys). In section 7 of the guide there is a list of the directories which I should have on my computer's hard disk following the installation process. However there appear to be a number of the directories which I should have, but do not. The missing directories are: EMTEX\DOC\GR180 EMTEX\DOC\GR300 EMTEX\DOC\GR360 EMTEX\BTEXFMTS My biggest problem, however, occurred when I attempted to install the printer drivers, as described in section 9 (installation of the printer drivers and screen previewers). The guide states that I should use the DOS command. Copy a:*.fli d:\texfonts in order to copy the fonts. I do not appear to have any .FLI files on any of the disks supplied. Further more,in section 3 of the guide, which lists the files that are on each of the diskettes, there are no .FLI files listed. I have used the LaTeX tool on the file SAMPLE.TEX, which is supplied on the disks, and have produced the corresponding.LOG, .AUX and .DVI files. However when I attempted to use the programs V and VS to view the output, I received the error message: Fatal Error 2001: Cannot open font Library lj_0.fli. My questions Do I required the msising directories I have listed above, if so what should they contain? What are the .FLI files, and how can I create them or where can I copy them from? Once I have the appropriate .FLI files will I then be able to preview and print9he output from the LaTeX program? I would appreciate any help you could offer. My address is Peter Hughes SRC Consultants Ltd Oceanic House 89 High Street Alton Hampshire GU34 1LG Tel:0420 541636 Fax 0420 541634 (I will print and FAX any replies - Peter) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1993 20:12:24 +0000 From: spqr@uk.ac.tex.ftp Subject: various TeXes Hungry TeX-seekers might like to know that the UK TeX Archive (and the other CTAN hosts) now stock TeX binaries for DEC's Alpha machine in its Unix OSF/1 mode in systems/unix/alpha. The OpenVMS stuff is expected soon. See also (it has been in Stuttgart all along) the stuff for Acorn RISCOS in systems/acorn. Sebastian Rahtz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1993 21:13:10 +0000 From: spqr@uk.ac.tex.ftp Subject: Binaries for DEC Alpha machine running OpenVMS I have added a VMS backup saveset of a bare minimum of TeX for DEC's Alpha machines running OpenVMS etc to CTAN archives; it can be found in systems/vms/alpha, and its vvencoded. When I get a clear line to the uk.ac.tex VMS machine, i'll put it there too. This set comes courtesy of Ivan Fabian, RAL. It consists of .obj and .exe files for TeX, dvips, xdvi, tangle and weave. You may or may not need to relink the .obj files and/or fiddle with .cld files. Enjoy, if that's possible with VMS. Sebastian Rahtz PS binaries for the same beast running Unix are also in CTAN, currently in systems/unix/alpha. we may move them when we decide how to classify the stuff, but they'll be somewhere under systems. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1993 22:49:54 +0000 From: spqr@uk.ac.tex.ftp Subject: Front Ends to TeX - a reminder Uk TeX people are advised not to forget to send in their booking forms for the October 20th `Front Ends to TeX' meeting. Here is the flyer again in plain text. read it, gasp in delight, and book your place. Sebastian Rahtz ********** Front Ends to TeX: Making TeX Accessible to Humans Aston University 20 October 1993 This meeting will present a range of the different approaches to making TeX more useable in the modern world, for people who do not think in terms of control sequences and macros, or want to make wider use of their hard-won documents; the speakers and topics will include: * Christopher Mabb : A presentation of Scientific Word. A genuine front end to TeX, offering a Windows interface to document preparation, especially scientific and mathematical writing, with true Knuthian typeset quality. * Jonathan Fine : New Perspectives on Macros. A fresh look at what TeX itself can do with appropriate sophisticated macros, to make itself more friendly. * Adrian Clark : Hypermedia extensions to a dvi previewer. Describes `hdvi', a new Unix previewer which includes facilities for hypermedia links and multimedia objects. * Nikos Drakos : LaTeX to HTML. HTML is the hypertext mark-up language of World Wide Web, and this presentation shows how LaTeX source can be used in a truly international networked hypertext system. * Sebastian Rahtz : A survey of TeX shell programs. A review of the environments available on PC, Macintosh and Unix systems which try to simplify the complex interaction between editors, TeX, previewers, printers and post-processors. Some speakers will demonstrate software, and there there of course will be time for discussion. All the speakers will be asked to summarize their talks for publication in Baskerville. The meeting will take place after the Annual General Meeting of the UKTUG at Aston University, which all members are warmly invited to attend. The venue is the Senior Common Room, Room 708, Main Building, Aston University, Birmingham. The AGM will be at 11.40am, with registration and coffee from 1000, and the Front Ends meeting will begin at 2pm. Lunch will be served at 1pm, tea at 4pm, and the meeting will end at 5--5.30pm. Please return the booking form, with payment, so as to arrive no later than 15 October 1993. The meeting fee is pounds 20 for members of the UKTUG, and pounds 30 for non-members. Return the completed form to arrive no later than 15 October 1993. The charge for members of the UKTUG will be pounds 20, and for non-members, pounds 30. This charge includes lunch. 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